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PostPosted: 04 Sep 2008, 07:18 
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On another board, I found this:

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we find in Paul the first recorded instance of anybody in antiquity claiming husbands should love and take care of their wives


Amd I have an issue with this.

I can't believe that the first time ever this was taught was only 2000 years ago.

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PostPosted: 05 Sep 2008, 18:51 
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The key to the statement may be "recorded". Of course I am only guessing. Personal thoughts, everybody before that might have thought it was just so obvious you didn't have to write it down.... :dontknow:


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PostPosted: 08 Sep 2008, 10:31 
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The Ramayana (a good bit of which is about husband-wife love) is 2500-2750 years old.


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PostPosted: 19 Sep 2008, 01:30 
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I am still stumbling over a foggy foggy memory from a medieval lit course from loooong ago where one of the things we tracked was the first notion of romantic love and it was like Carolingian or later. Abelarde and Eloise kind of thing. But the reference is gone so I don't know what it means.


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PostPosted: 19 Sep 2008, 06:44 
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"Romantic" as in? Are we talking the ideal of "Courtly" love that has led to the current "Romantic" impression of the middle ages? Or love for love's sake, as opposed to dynastic purposes. Because if it is the later, what about Pompeii?


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PostPosted: 22 Sep 2008, 17:55 
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I'm with you, HavenMage. I have a hard time believing that the Middle Ages was the first time any two human beings ever paired off for emotional reasons rather than financial ones (or for status, negotiation, etc.). Why would we even have it in us to fall in love unless it was an inherent part of our mating process?

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