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PostPosted: 21 Jan 2009, 13:39 
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Ethics crisis in America? Church leaders say yes

By Carey Gillam

KANSAS CITY, Missouri (Reuters) - From billion-dollar ponzi schemes to bad mortgages and pay-to-play dealings by public officials, some are asking: Is there a crisis of ethics in America?

The swirl of corruption, fraud and greed stretching from Wall Street to Main Street has many U.S. church leaders saying the answer is a resounding yes -- America is facing not only an economic meltdown, but also a moral one. And they are rushing to bring flocks back into the fold.

"Honesty is honesty. It doesn't matter if you are Christian, Jewish, Muslim, whatever. A lot of these debacles we're seeing can be traced and sourced back to a lack of good old ethics," said the Rev. Jerry Johnston, who this month launched a 12-part series of sermons on ethics at First Family Church in Overland Park, Kansas, which has about 5,000 members.

Johnston is one of a number of religious leaders and scholars who say the current spate of troubled times are an opportunity to lead more Americans into church pews and to prayer.

"We're beginning to see this across the nation," said Ken Eldred, a California technology company entrepreneur who writes books about the role of religion in business. "There has been a crisis of ethics ... and I think sadly it is quite significant. People think business has nothing to do with faith, that honesty is not always the best policy. But when you take that away, people end up worse overall."

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PostPosted: 22 Jan 2009, 11:12 
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Two words...Jim Bakker

'Nuff said


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PostPosted: 22 Jan 2009, 12:23 
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Seriously. Like I need a bunch of bigots talking to me about ethics.


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PostPosted: 22 Jan 2009, 16:35 
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What a tool. :protest:

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PostPosted: 22 Jan 2009, 16:54 
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At what point do any evangelical Christians hold the higher ethical ground than those of other faiths (or none)?

Oh, that's right-- never.


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PostPosted: 09 Feb 2009, 13:21 
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People have been moaning and groaning for centuries about how terribly wicked the present generation is.

The historian Tacitus did that during the Roman Empire, the New Left did that in the 1960's, Shakespeare made the Winter's-Tale Shepherd talk about what bad, bad, bad boys we have today, etc.


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PostPosted: 09 Feb 2009, 15:08 
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IIRC, Confucius had some choice words on the subject as well ... :wink:

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Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell, Ted Stevens, a fairly large number of Roman Catholic priests, David Koresh, Jim Jones...

Yeah. People need more church! :roll:


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PostPosted: 09 Feb 2009, 21:34 
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Or ... They just need my church ...

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PostPosted: 09 Feb 2009, 22:29 
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I recall something that may have been attributed to Confucius: "At twenty, I wanted to reform the world; at forty, I wanted to reform my village; and at sixty, I only want to reform myself." Or is it something else?

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I would there were no age between ten and three and twenty, or that youth would sleep out the rest; for there is nothing in the between but getting wenches with child, wronging the ancientry, stealing, fighting...

An old Shepherd in William Shakespeare's The Winter's Tale, Act 3, Scane 3.


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