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 Post subject: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2009, 22:51 
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So here is the reason for my Anti-Christian Kick:

My GF and I recently decided that we would like to move in together. She lives in the 'Burbs so I have to get myself in gear and do some prep, so we have decided to make this move early in 2010, maybe the spring.

At any rate, we started prepping our friends for this since it is a pretty big change for both of us. Now most of them responded as you would expect: support, joy, and excitement, especially from my friends who must have thought that I had placed down roots in my current apartment of more than a decade...

Most of them.

My GF tells her "Best Friend" about this. (Coincidentally the "best friend's" Husband is also there) She is a "Christian" of the old school apparently. The GF gets the blank look and silent treatment (from both). Awkward, non-approval. He just stops talking to her. Later, she is having a conversation with this "friend" and the "friend" begins to make remarks and comments based on her assumptions of my character. No problem, I am used to people thinking that I am some sort of horny goat just because I have male plumbing. Then of course, she goes on to call my GF, her "Best Friend", a "Whore".

:explode:

So this brings up all the other baggage that I am carrying around thanks to my own screwed up religious heritage. I think I have managed to control my own response and limited it to referring to this supposed "friend" as a "Christ Nazi", despite my desire to use other words that are stronger and more explicative. The GF, on the other hand, is crushed.

I am not a violent man, honest, I am not...yet... :angryfire:


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 Post subject: Re: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2009, 23:00 
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While there are no Christ-Nazi smilies (Put that on your list Gurdur?) I hope you know that you and your GF have ALL of my support.

Well, short of burning crosses that need to be delivered by bus and all that ... :cheeky:

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2009, 23:40 
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I can't get over this.

It's not like you are kids, it's not like either of you has a 'reputation'.

Man, this is nuts.

:(

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 25 Jan 2009, 11:18 
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Thanx for your support.

This event has just reinforced my feelings on the matter of religion. Whenever I deal with persons following alternate religions I always feel welcomed and get warm, friendly treatment. :sunny:

If Christianity is involved, it usually seems judgmental, exclusionary, and cold. :imeter:

Maybe it's my own baggage... :dontknow:


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 Post subject: Re: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 25 Jan 2009, 11:20 
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Or lack thereof?

By being open yourself, enough to tolerate alternitives, you are welcoming in your own way?

Which would also scare people with baggage away.

Makes me like your young lady better, though. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 25 Jan 2009, 11:37 
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I've had plenty of experience with Christians cramming their so-called morals down my throat. All I can say, HavenMage, is that I feel for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 25 Jan 2009, 11:59 
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HavenMage, you have my sympathies as well.
One of the very worst of Christianity's many shortcomings is its unhealthy attitude toward sex.
I daresay that any religion that does not celebrate both the male and the female aspects of the divine is going to be unbalanced.
Many forms of Christianity actually believe that women are inherently MORE evil than men, and that because of their sexual attractiveness.

Very hostile to life, in my opinion.

Did your GF's friends actually think that you and she were NOT engaging in sexual activities with one another?
How long have you been together?


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 Post subject: Re: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 26 Jan 2009, 07:39 
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We will celebrate our one year in about a week. I honestly do not know what this friend thought, and I suspect she did not think...it would explain much.

Another part that scares me is that this sort of obtuse attitude is passed on through the generations, and you get the same attitudes that lead to problems like the Witch burnings and racism.


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 Post subject: Re: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 26 Jan 2009, 08:41 
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If you get your values uncritically out of an ancient collection of writings, this is a likely result.

I think you need to give your "crushed" GF a lot of TLC. Never mind how horribly someone behaves, if you thought s/he was your best friend it is a profoundly unsettling experience. How much else that you think you know about the world might be wrong?

The only way In My Opinion to counteract this is to keep her doing plenty of socialising with decent people and suggest (you can't do more than that) that she keeps away from this former "best friend".


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 Post subject: Re: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 26 Jan 2009, 19:57 
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Perhaps not surprisingly, that was my own opinion on the matter. Aside from her 13 hour days at work, I have seen her every day.

:cheers:


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 Post subject: Re: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2009, 06:27 
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Knowing her "best friend's" religious views GF probably should have expected awkwardness / non-approval, but "whore"? That's extreme. I'm sorry that you & GF had to experience that.

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 27 Jan 2009, 12:14 
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I've got a standardized response to charges of "whore", mainly a long diatribe on etymology, the high status of the qadeshim in ancient culture, and how complimented I am that they would hold me in such high regard. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Anti-Christian Kick
PostPosted: 20 Feb 2009, 09:10 
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I am having flashbacks of "The God Warrior" I can hear her screaming in my head...

back to topic. This may just be the very thing that flushes your gf's friends true colors. Focus on the two of you, put your energy into the transition, and each other, to hell with them. If they cannot get over their judgemental attitudes and come off the pedestal and be understanding then they are not true friends in the sense of friends that love you for being you.
"Whore"......hardly, play some reverse psychology mumbo jumbo on her so called friend and ask her if she has some deep seeded self issues in regards to the whore/prostitute role....as in the first thing she identifies in her friend is the very same thing she is ashamed of in herself.....just eff with her mind. :lol:


this reminds of me of irl lady now wife of my dh's friend....they could sleep together before marriage and hump like rabbits and use bc and that was not taboo, but by lordy the "church frowns upon that" when the issue of birth control comes up after they were married. I dont care either way, but don't bullshit me when its convenient, and look down your nose at us because we chose to limit our family to three. That is what pisses me off about christians most, condescending judgement!!

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