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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2009, 08:24 
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More Than One in Three Americans Would Like to See Bigfoot Proven as Real, According to National Poll

SILVER SPRING, Md., Oct. 13 /PRNewswire/ -- With vampires, zombies and other
legendary creatures flooding pop culture, it's clear that Americans have a
fascination with all things superhuman, supernatural and superbeast. But does
fascination translate into full-blooded belief of these creatures, or do the
TV shows, movies and books merely provide escapist entertainment for the
masses? Animal Planet and Zogby polled 2,713 adults nationally to find out if
they truly believe the stories, or if they think these creatures are as
fictional as the childhood monsters under our beds.


Overall, about one third of the population seems open to the notion that
ghosts, cryptid creatures like Bigfoot, and aliens do exist. To satisfy this
craving for supernatural entertainment, Animal Planet has two series, in
premieres this fall, which tackle the unknown.


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PostPosted: 19 Oct 2009, 14:53 
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Something I'd originally posted over at FRDB: Sasquatch == Black Bear?

I just came across where the sasquatches roam… by gfish in the "Weird Things" blog.

gfish reported on a recent paper, Lozier, J., et al. (2009). Predicting the distribution of Sasquatch in western North America: anything goes with ecological niche modeling Journal of Biogeography DOI: 10.1111/j.1365-2699.2009.02152.x

They took 551 Bigfoot sightings and 95 footprint sites and found a possible range from California to Washington, following major mountain chains. They found a 85% overlap with the range of the American black bear (Ursus americanus). So either sasquatches are a close ecological match for those bears, or else many sasquatch sightings are sightings of those bears by scared hunters, hikers, and campers.

This is not a new speculation; Bigfoot mentions it.

Black bears can certainly be threatening. Standing on its hind legs, a black bear can be 7' (over 2m) tall. Their body weights are 40 - 180 kg (90 - 400 lb) for female ones and 70 - 275 kg (155 - 600 lb) for male ones, overlapping the human weight range at their lower end.

Likewise, many yeti sightings are likely sightings of Himalayan bears, the brown bear or red bear (Ursus arctos), and the Tibetan black bear (Ursus thibetanus).

Although most bears have long snouts, bears have forward-pointing eyes, and from the front, a bear's face looks vaguely human. Thus, the vaguely apelike appearance.

This does not explain all the sightings, but it may explain why people have photographed and caught numerous bears in the western-US mountains and in the Himalayas, but no apes.

PostPosted: 19 Oct 2009, 15:01 
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I never thought it could be a simple mistake like that....

I guess, if you aren't that familiar with bears...

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PostPosted: 22 Oct 2009, 13:19 
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As a camper I would not agree. There are plenty of beasts in the woods I don't need another one. Loch Ness and Champy seem cool though. :D

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