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PostPosted: 09 Apr 2010, 15:27 
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There needs to be a split.

Good people can't continue to follow this lead.

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PostPosted: 10 Apr 2010, 05:56 
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jess wrote:
There needs to be a split.

Good people can't continue to follow this lead.


Define good as those following this lead might say they are good and those who don't are sinners and apostate, thus bad.

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PostPosted: 10 Apr 2010, 09:19 
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there is no child abuse or condoning of child abuse anywhere near 'good'.

period.

There are guides that are hard and fast. Will not say if you are good, but will say if you are bad.

Not abusing children does not make one 'good'. Abusing them makes you bad.

Sorry. I'm black and white here.

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PostPosted: 12 Apr 2010, 10:39 
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100411/ap_ ... VzYWJvdXQ-

Worries about Calif. priest came early in career

By GILLIAN FLACCUS and BROOKE DONALD, Associated Press Writer – Sun Apr 11, 5:46 am ET

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OAKLAND, Calif. – Even in his seminary days in the early 1970s, there were questions about California priest Stephen Kiesle: Colleagues said he had trouble relating to adults, lacked spirituality and didn't seem committed to anything but youth ministry.

Those colleagues, who helped make the case to the Vatican in 1981 seeking to let him leave the priesthood, said they were concerned before Kiesle was ordained, and more so after revelations Kiesle had molested children in his parish.

"He was not grown up. He spent more time with kids than with people his own age. You get suspicious of that. There's something wrong there," said John Cummins, former bishop in the Diocese of Oakland, now retired.


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Vatican makes clear bishops must report sex abuse

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VATICAN CITY – The Vatican has for the first time made it clear that bishops and other high-ranking clergy should report clerical sex abuse to police.

The Vatican has insisted that this has long been the Catholic Church's policy. But in a new guide for lay readers posted Monday on its Web site, it made public for the first time an explicit policy of reporting abuse to law-enforcement.

The guidelines read: "Civil law concerning reporting of crimes to the appropriate authorities should always be followed."


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PostPosted: 12 Apr 2010, 13:30 
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jess wrote:
there is no child abuse or condoning of child abuse anywhere near 'good'.

period.

There are guides that are hard and fast. Will not say if you are good, but will say if you are bad.

Not abusing children does not make one 'good'. Abusing them makes you bad.

Sorry. I'm black and white here.

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Then you are apostate, good for you. The pope is infallible on matters of dogma only, and this certainly comes under that. he is a hypocrite, homosexuality is wrong only if it is not done by your own clergy and pederasty can be overlooked. He's treading a very thin and dangerous line by picking and choosing what to take a hard line on. It clearly states in Romans that pederasty is sinful all those who indulge in it should be cast out of the church with nothing more than a trial.

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Zebulon wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100412/ap_on_re_eu/eu_church_abuse;_ylt=Aj6WtFYexvc0JQE6YpLc1res0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTFob3FvNDAyBHBvcwMyMwRzZWMDYWNjb3JkaW9uX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawN2YXRpY2FubWFrZXM-

Vatican makes clear bishops must report sex abuse

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VATICAN CITY – The Vatican has for the first time made it clear that bishops and other high-ranking clergy should report clerical sex abuse to police.

The Vatican has insisted that this has long been the Catholic Church's policy. But in a new guide for lay readers posted Monday on its Web site, it made public for the first time an explicit policy of reporting abuse to law-enforcement.

The guidelines read: "Civil law concerning reporting of crimes to the appropriate authorities should always be followed."


Too little too late.

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PostPosted: 15 Apr 2010, 19:37 
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I don't know how much longer the Church will hold up.

I'm expecting a schism and soon.

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Irish bishop resigns, says he didn't report abuse

By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer – Thu Apr 22, 8:09 am ET

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VATICAN CITY – Pope Benedict XVI on Thursday accepted the resignation of an Irish bishop who admitted he didn't challenge the Dublin church's policy of covering up the sexual abuse of children by priests.

Bishop James Moriarty of Kildare is the third Irish bishop to resign in four months as a result of the Irish sex abuse scandal. Another two have offered to go, as the Vatican comes under increasing pressure to get rid of the bishops who covered up for priests who sodomized and molested children for decades unchecked.

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Three Irish government-ordered investigations published from 2005 to 2009 have documented how thousands of Irish children suffered rape, molestation and other abuse by priests in their parishes and by nuns and brothers in boarding schools and orphanages. Irish bishops did not report a single case to police until 1996 after victims began to sue the church.


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